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HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

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HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor scoob6442 » za 29 okt 2016, 19:02

hallo,

ongeveer 6 weken geleden merkte ik dat mijn roggen minder begonnen te eten , dit resulteerde ook in lusteloosheid, ik wijzig zo bizar weinig aan mijn bestand dat ik betwijfel of het komt door het bijzetten van andere dieren,
Ik heb tremazol besteld maar moest hier drie weken op wachten dus ben gaan behandelen met gyropond van jbl dit is tegen kieuwwormen en huid wormen en lintwormen (dus redelijk veel overeenkomsten met tremazol) na deze behandeling werden de vissen iets levendiger maar bleven slecht eten, wel zag ik dat de slijmhuid grauwer van kleur werd en dat het gewoon niet goed eruit zag, ben toen op aanraden van haiko gelijk begonnen met een zoutbehandeling van 2 gram per liter en de temp verhoogd naar 31 graden,hierdoor werd de slijmhuid weer okeej .inmiddels ook de hele bioloog inhoud gereinigd in een bak met aquarium water omdat ik eerder al eens gelezen heb dat een verontreinigd filter ook de oorzaak kan zijn
Nu heb ik vorige week zaterdag alsnog de inmiddels binnengekregen tremazolkuur toegediend en de roggen werden weer stukken levendiger , vandaag een week later heb ik de nakuur gedaan voor eventueel uitgekomen eitjes om de larven te bestrijden.

de vissen reageren nog steeds amper tot slecht op het voer. daar waar ik normaal gesproken 750 gram mossel garnaal of spiering kwijt kon aan de 6 roggen, gooi ik er nu mag 20 mossels per dag in en dat wordt ook niet van harte opgegeten. ik ben eigenlijk wel ten einde raad en hoop dat iemand mij hiermee kan helpen.

Ik test regelmatig mijn water waardes en die zijn altijd wel okeej.


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Re: HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor rolandijs » zo 30 okt 2016, 15:12

Wat voor dieren heb je bijgezet, en weet je zeker dat ze niks doen bij de roggen?
Een klein visje die ze eventueel gewoon kunnen pakken kan behoorlijk wat stress veroorzaken waardoor ze stoppen met eten.

Na de kuur kan het best nog wel even duren voordat ze weer volledig eten en herstelt zijn als ze parasieten gehad hebben.
Als ze in ieder geval allemaal iets eten en er niet vermagerd uit zien kan je het nog wel even afwachten.

Misschien de vissen die je bijgezet hebt even apart zetten als je de mogelijkheid hebt?
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Re: HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor scoob6442 » zo 30 okt 2016, 16:31

Ik heb twee cichla s uit een kort daarvoor gekuurde bak erbij gezet. Die zijn rond de 20 cm . Het vrouwtje wat laatst bevallen is tijdens deze crisis periode is de enige die er zorgwekkend mager uitziet. Dus het zou enige tijd kunnen durenvoor er verbetering in het eetgedrag zichtbaar zou zijn? Wel heb ik van een mede roggenhouder begrepen dat bij hem ook sinds een 6 tal weken de pleuris in zijn bak is en hij is toch wel oprecht de grootste hobbyist van allemaal die nix aan het toeval over laat.hij heeft het idee dat er zware metalen in het water kunnen zitten de laatste tijd . Klinkt logisch ?
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Re: HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor Lode » ma 31 okt 2016, 12:00

In dit soort gevallen is het het beste terug te gaan naar de basis. Ik ga dus eerst een hoop vragen stellen.

Wat zijn de waterwaardes precies, nitriet, nitraat, amonia, pH, koper, temp, etc.?

Kan je ook vertellen hoe het bioloog is ingedeeld. Foto zou handig zijn.

Wat is precies het visbestand? Hoe vaak en hoeveel ververs je. Alle info en elke kleine verandering van de afgelopen maanden kan helpen tot een oplossing.

Hoe lang draait de bak?

Leuk weer van je te horen trouwens!
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Re: HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor scoob6442 » vr 04 nov 2016, 22:18

ik zal na het weekend met wat water waardes komen. ik heb sinds vandaag het idee dat de vissen actiever worden en wat meer eten dus het begin is er. kan dat zijn dat er gewoonweg na een tremazolkuur een moment overheen gaat voor ze weer verbeteren? foto s uploaden gaat niet lukken met de huidige leen telefoon die ik nu heb.
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Re: HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor Mark » vr 04 nov 2016, 22:36

Bij mij is het eigenlijk direct na de tremazol kuur dat de roggen extra veel eten.
Beginnen ze ook weer wat voller te worden?
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Re: HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor rolandijs » za 05 nov 2016, 03:23

Kuurde jij met een rede Mark of gewoon zomaar een tijdelijke kuur?

Ik had 1 rog die heel slecht at, 2 dagen na de kuur zag ik met toeval een lintworm van zo'n 10cm met de poep meekomen uit die rog en het duurde zeker nog wel 2 a 3 weken voordat die echt weer de normale hoeveelheid at.
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Re: HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor Mark » za 05 nov 2016, 17:25

ik heb gekuurd omdat in nieuwe bewoners in het aquarium had gezet dus gewoon voorzorg.
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Re: HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor scoob6442 » ma 28 nov 2016, 05:20

Inmiddels begint alles weer wat voller te worden en eten ze weer als voorheen :-) ben er echt heel blij mee want ik dacht echt me dieren te verliezen.
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Re: HELP, Roggen eten super slecht

Berichtdoor Lode » do 01 dec 2016, 01:07

Super! Wat was het probleem uiteindelijk?
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