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Voorstellen en tips, tricks does and dont's

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Voorstellen en tips, tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor Bramf » ma 28 aug 2017, 18:45

Beste leden allemaal.
Hierbij wil ik me graag voorstellen op dit forum en zou ik graag wat tips en tricks, does and dont's willen weten om roggen te houden.

Mijn naam is Bram en ben al 5 jaar in het bezit van een aquarium. Waaronder het aquarium van 160x60x60 die ik 3 jaar in gebruik heb zonder enige problemen.
Ik wil nu heel graag roggen gaan houden.
Heb al bij een kweker 1 koppel scobina gereserveerd. Natuurlijk daarvoor al van alles gelezen en aan de kweker dingen gevraagd. Alleen hier toch nog een paar vragen die ik heb zodat ik het 100% goed ga doen en de roggen gezond blijven.

Eerst paar dingen over mijn aquarium:
Afmetingen: 160x60x60
Filter met 2 externe filters van totaal 2500 l/h
Filter met: Keramische pijpjes met verschillende grofheid en sponzen.
Zit 1 extra zuurstof steen in + 1 stromingspomp van 20000 l/h
En ik haal al mijn vissen eruit voordat de roggen komen en de bak is altijd blijven draaien.

Nieuw bestand dat ik graag wil:
1 koppel scobina die ik koop als ze 11cm zijn.
Verder een groepje van 7 geophagus,
En misschien wel meer maar dat komt later. In ieder geval geen grondvissen en de roggen eerst.

Ik weet dat mijn bak zeker niet de grootste is. Maar heb gevraagd en gezocht en zou net kunnen voor 1 koppel scobina. En koop ze als pups dus kan goed zien of ze uiteindelijk wel te groot worden.

Maar wil graag vragen voor tips,tricks en does en dont's.
Moet er 1 filter bij? Moet ik iets anders aanpakken? Of zijn de dingen waar ik in de toekomst echt op moet letten?, bepaalde waterwaardes die uiters goed moeten zijn en er geen verandering in mag komen?, iets met voeren waar ik op moet letten?

Alles is welkom! En alsvast iedereen bedankt.
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Re: Voorstellen en tips,tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor Lode » vr 01 sep 2017, 03:47

Welkom op het forum Bram, leuk dat je je hebt aangemeld.

Voor zulke vragen heb ik een artikel geschreven. Beste is deze eerst even lezen zodat je daarna wat specifieker kan vragen :) Link: viewtopic.php?f=55&t=6224
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Re: Voorstellen en tips,tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor Bramf » vr 01 sep 2017, 07:54

Heel erg bedankt. Ik had al meer artikels gelezen over roggen, maar deze nog niet. Goed stuk!
Dan zou ik iets specifieker vragen:
Mijn aquarium is niet groot, het minimum. En bij roggen word het water snel aangetast. Is mijn filter capaciteit groot genoeg samen met 1 zuurstof steen en 1 stromingspomp?

Ik heb een ph meter die 24/7 mijn water meet. Het klopt dat de ph lager word als het amoniak, nitriet etc. Hoger word?
Want zo wil ik dan eigenlijk elke dag kijken wanneer ik precies moet verversen. (Wat dan 1x per week waarschijnlijk moet)

En wat is het beste voer dat jullie geven voor een mooie koppeltje scobina? Ook had ik gelezen dat ik ze het beste 2x per dag kan voeren als ze jong zijn en later 1x per dag. Klopt dat?
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Re: Voorstellen en tips, tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor Lode » zo 03 sep 2017, 08:05

Ik zou voor 2 mannerjes gaan in dat formaat. Beste is een bioloog, maar opzich kan het qua filtratie. De matten zou ik er uit halen.

pH schommelingen kunnen meerdere oorzaken hebben en zou ii niet als basis nemen voor verversen. Beste gewoon nitraat meten hiervoor.

1x per dag voeten is prima. Wil je snellere groei kan het ool vaket. Voer niet veel anders dan andete roggen. In het begin geven wat ze makkelijk pakken :)
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Re: Voorstellen en tips, tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor Bramf » zo 03 sep 2017, 19:34

Bedankt voor je reactie.
Ik weet dat een bioloog beter is, alleen dat is helaas niet mogelijk voor mij. Maar wel goed te horen dat de capaciteit in ieder geval goed is.
Alleen waarom moeten de filterwatten er eigenlijk uit? Dacht juist dat dat als bovenste laag goed was?
En als het eruit Moet, wat moet er dan in? Alleen maar keramische pijpjes?
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Re: Voorstellen en tips, tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor Lode » vr 08 sep 2017, 17:58

Filtermatten ;)
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Re: Voorstellen en tips, tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor Bramf » zo 17 sep 2017, 11:09

Top dankje.
Mijn aquarium is nu ready en binnenkort haal ik de rog op.
Nu zit ik even te kijken naar bijvissen. Heros en de geophagus red head vind ik super mooi. Maar de meningen zijn verdeeld over of dat wel samen gaat.
Daarom vroeg ik me af: kan 1 groepje van 5 geophagus red head bij 1 koppel scobina?
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Re: Voorstellen en tips, tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor Lode » di 19 sep 2017, 14:35

Hangt afvan de grootte?
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Re: Voorstellen en tips, tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor rolandijs » di 19 sep 2017, 15:16

welkom op het forum Bram

Geophagus is een goeie bijvis bij roggen ze zijn lekker rustig naar roggen, alleen blijft de red head wel wat te klein ze zullen uiteindelijk als voer gezien worden aangezien de geophagus soorten op de grond slapen en roggen in de nacht gewoon door jagen.
Ik zou kijken voor de altifrons of megasema of een andere die ook wat groter word.

Persoonlijk zou ik met 60 cm diepte niet voor een koppel maar 2 mannetjes gaan, vrouwtjes groeien en stuk sneller en worden aanzienlijk groter waardoor de bak al snel te klein word
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Re: Voorstellen en tips, tricks does and dont's

Berichtdoor Bramf » do 21 sep 2017, 16:13

Top. Heel erg bedankt. Alles helpt enorm om de roggen zo goed mogelijk te onderhouden.
Dan had ik nog even een laatste vraag: ik merk dat er wat alg vorming ontstaat in mijn bak. Dat kunnen algeneter goed weg halen. Maar kunnen van die kleine borstelneus algeneter bij roggen? Of heb je grote nodig? Zoals sommige l nummer? Want elke algeneter gebruikt weer ruimte op de bodem die de rog nodig heeft.
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